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BP's Guessing Game continues – part 1.

Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:13 PM EDT
environment, congress, government, oil, florida, mexico, federal-government, investigation, bp, oil-spill, explosion, gulf, fed, louisiana, epa, mississippi, gulf-oil-spill, gulf-of-mexico, gulf-coast, leak, noaa, coast-guard, bp-oil-spill, gov, oil-leak, deepwater, blowout, leaking, bop, gulf-oil-spill-horizon
By BK Lim
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There has been disturbing news of BP’s indifference to safety concerns raised at BP’s Atlantis production platform, 240 km SW of the BP’s Macondo Oil spill disaster site. See figure 124-1 above. See the full report dated 9 June 2010 at by Len Cannon at Khou.com.

The Gulf of Mexico 2006 earthquake near BP’s Atlantis site still remains a mystery. See the DailyBite’s Blog dated 28 July 2010.

So when recent Rov videos supposedly recorded at the BP’s Macondo Oil spill disaster site, jumped within a split second to BP’s Atlantis production platform, 240 km away, keen BP Rov observers started to wonder whether BP had invented some kind of a tele-transporter to move and share expensive sub-sea equipment between exploration and production sites. Many also wondered whether this advanced tele-transporter technology had given BP an unfair competitive advantage. To make BP’s guessing game more interesting, the Rov coordinates are no longer displayed on the video footage.

The results of the investigation on one recent ROV video dated 21 Oct 2010 are summarized in Figure 124-2.

The study subject was a horizontal pipe with a lever tap valve at the centre. A copy of the video with discussion is given at Above Top Secret.Com/Forum/Thread619957/Pg13. The length of the pipe in the video is 8.2 times the diameter of the pipe which is 5.6 times the diameter of a vertically hanging cable / pipe (?). So if the diameter of the pipe is 16 inches, the length of the pipe on the rov screen capture must be at least 11 feet long.

The current BOP at well A does not appear to have anything of that length sticking out horizontally, clear of the BOP stack structures. If well A is already dead, what function would the lever tap valve serve? There is no active flow of oil/gas to control. In the video, the reflection halos around the “leaking valve” seem to be pulsating with gas bubbles floating around. The accumulated hydrates around the valve also confirm some leakage, although the valve does not seem to be totally shut.

Besides the obvious change from Atlantis to MC252#1, the altitude of the Rov also changed from 25ft to just 2ft above the seabed while the angle of the camera, lighting, heading and orientation of the pipe all remained exactly the same.

There are three possible answers to solve BP’s riddle.

  1. This horizontal pipe & valve is part of the permanent seabed installation at Atlantis production platform and the video was recorded during a Rov inspection. If this is the case, was “Atlantis” trying to send a “coded SOS” public message for help?
  2. The “subject pipe” was just a decoy held up by the rov arms and the camera recording being looped to confuse the Rov observers. The change in the site location label was to add further confusion.
  3. BP had invented a tele-transporter that could move equipment within a split of a second over hundreds of miles.

Happy guessing.

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BK Lim

Check out BP's latest tele-transporter system that can move equipment up to a few tons over hundreds of miles within a split second. Simply amazing.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:57 PM EDT
Dowser

This sounds like StarTrek, doesn't it?

This whole thing makes me ill. What ARE they doing? and WHY?

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
BK Lim

Dowser, there is a lot more. I have seen videos of grouting, methane evaporating from the seafloor, exposed faulted beds (could be lava beds as well) etc.

Before I make sense of the geology, I needed to take care of the superficial details, sort of to double check they are not putting out bogus videos. It happens you know. Kinda keep me on the toes and 24 hrs busy.

Very happy to have you drop in. (((((dowser)))))

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:41 PM EDT
Dowser

You're working so very hard! And you are so smart to be doing it! No one else is!

I'm very glad to see you, too! Much love to you!

(((((((((((((BK Lim)))))))))))))

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:51 PM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks for the encouragement.

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:55 PM EDT
Dowser

I think you are doing a wonderful job-- and I admire your high quality work! I sometimes have to back away from the story as I can picture the death and devastation beneath the waves... Anyone can, who has ever seen the fossil beds we've seen. It makes me ill.

The more they lie, and squiggle and worm and use people, the madder I get about it. Not that it does any good... :-)

I fully support your efforts and hope that you know you're not alone out there!

  • 5 votes
#1.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:00 PM EDT
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BK Lim

We have to keep digging at it if we are going to see something good coming out of this disaster.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:06 PM EDT
Dowser

if anyone can find it-- you can! :-)

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:25 AM EDT
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etva

Another great article BK. I really appreciate the photos and their explanations. It helps me understandthe details.

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:34 AM EDT
BK Lim

etva, thanks. I had a lot of photos to choose from. It was a tough choice but I am glad I chose this.

  • 6 votes
#3.1 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:59 AM EDT
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Briwnys

Great work as usual BK. Thanks for keeping the topic alive!

  • 7 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:47 AM EDT
BK Lim

Briwnys

Great to have you here. Yes, we need to keep the issues alive for everyone's sake.

  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT
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eth-2299740

I agree with etva - BK

Your ability to break complicated issues into understandable terms for the layperson is appreciated by me and I am sure anyone who reads your articles.

Just as you, ektar and Kat speculated many incongruities may have double meanings. Perhaps someone is trying to communicate. But unless both have same decoder - rather difficult.

I was reading some interesting items regarding peak oil, and if it's true (don't know) that we can start experiencing oil shortages by 2011 - then the pressure will be on for companies like BP to drill, baby drill. How good is that? You worries are well-founded.

BTW - things for the gulf folks are continuing to deteriorate.

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/dire-situation-requests-continue-rise-director-major-charity

Apparently dire needs of both medical and food banks. Just passing it along :)

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:59 AM EDT
BK Lim

The industry is not as "safety savvy" as we all thought it was.

Internationally Safety/Management accredited companies operating vessels with banned Halon, fraudulent seaworthiness certificates, falsified installation/authorised approval and inspection of supposedly fail-safe critical systems (like the BOP?), falsified medical certificates, faulty fire alarm and fire fighting systems seem to be the norm.

The QC consulting company I was working with was in cosy relationship with one of the world's largest and leading geohazards contractor. The QCs on the job basically turned a blind eye to all these safety violations and abuses. Sounds familiar with BP's.

All these are leading international companies in their own field just as BP is or was. When I forwarded my complaints to the various govt regulators (to at least 7 countries), they just ignored my complaints. The multinational insurance companies do not care either. That's when I realised the patient (oil industry) is really really sick with an undetected terminal illness like HIV or cancer.

When the BP Oil disaster struck, I had to test out if the US regulatory bodies, BP, Transocean, Halliburton and all those involved, were operating in similar greedy, reckless and unscrupulous manner in the US as the rest of the world. So far I haven't been proven wrong yet. With worsening economy and rising & wildly fluctuating oil prices, this Safety Farce can only get worse. That's why if we do not investigate this disaster properly and prosecute the Top Managers who were criminally liable and responsible for this disaster, we would be inviting more of such disaster. It is just simple logical.

  • 4 votes
#5.1 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT
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sctodd

Hey BK, Haven't forgot about you. Sorry, haven't been much help lately but I'm glad you have managed to stay strong as others fall to the way side. Much of this is over my head and the information is spotty at best. It certainly has made it hard to figure out what is going on but thankfully you've painted a picture of the situation that we can understand and keeps us informed. Thank you for all of your hard work. Stay in touch.

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:55 AM EDT
BK Lim

Sure sctodd. I am contributing my time on the world's behalf. Probably my karma to do so and I am happy to do it. No worries.

Understand everybody has to earn their living and get on with their jobs and lives. This is within my expertise so I am compiling and documenting the facts as much as I can. Hopefully we can all learn from this and be smarter to prevent the next one.......hopefully.

  • 6 votes
#6.1 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:43 PM EDT
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eth-2299740

BK

From widipedia:

Atlantis sank into the ocean "in a single day and night of misfortune"

So did the DWH - sink into the ocean.

Perhaps someone is validating your articles :)

Timestamps - clue.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:07 AM EDT
BK Lim

eth

I give up. This article was published on 17:13. Why?

This page was last modified on 21 October 2010 at 18:19.

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:48 AM EDT
eth-2299740

Sorry BK

I meant could be clue to shift a particular ROV operator has, and during that persons shift can expect "things to happen" - but unlike you I haven't been following videos closely so I was wondering if you also observed relevant activities at any particular time?

  • 4 votes
#7.2 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:06 AM EDT
BK Lim

eth

There is a lot of people working and a lot of activities out there. With all the surveillance cameras and security measures, it must be difficult to get anything out of there. I remember being in that kind of situations before. So I can sympathise with those in similar situations now.

  • 5 votes
#7.3 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:30 AM EDT
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eth-2299740

BK

Yes - just checked number of vessels still there - plenty activities still on going.

Noticed now that discoverer enterprise and devl driller 3 (together) and - 5 miles from devl driller 2.

Wonder what is up now.

  • 5 votes
Reply#8 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:15 AM EDT
eth-2299740

It's back - more orange oil for miles (fingerprint):

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/orange-oil-stretching-miles-signature-image-spill-during-summer-bp-coast-guard-responding-captains

  • 5 votes
Reply#9 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT
BK Lim

Eth

Remember immediately after the 20 Apr blowout the coastguard reported orange (dye?) at one leak location. When I read that I was wondering who would want to spread "orange dye" in the sea. Now we know it is oil.

Any idea why the oil is orange in color?

  • 1 vote
#9.1 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:36 PM EDT
Dowser

Because it is mixed with sulfate, maybe? Just a guess...

  • 1 vote
#9.2 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:39 PM EDT
BK Lim

NOAA was saying it is algae. Dowser have you any idea what would be considered to be weathering in oil?

  • 1 vote
#9.3 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:27 AM EDT
eth-2299740

BK

No idea.

But recall seeing orange type color at wellhead when spraying dispersant directly at oil/methane mixture as it gushed out.

A really far out guess is mixture of mud, oil, dispersant :)

Another guess - since the well has collapsed, something is being pulled into the well from the formation and changing the color to orange :)

  • 2 votes
#9.4 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:28 AM EDT
Dowser

From what I've read, via the EPA, this oil is supposed to lose its volatiles and become orangy looking, then form dark orange/black tar balls. I wonder if the oil is mixed with gas, (even its own volatiles?), into a foam, and has broken down some while down there, and is just now showing up at the top.

Or, could gas be leaking into the surrounding beds, and is now coming up with the oil?

Whatever it is, this is not over yet by a long shot. There is still that awful plume out there that has to come up yet. Or sink. Or do something rather than just hang there.

    #9.5 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:52 AM EDT
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    eth-2299740

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-10-25-oilresearch25_ST_N.htm -

    from fosl.

    "found oil in samples dug up from the seafloor in a 140-mile radius around the site of the Macondo well"

    Matt S. was right.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#10 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:48 AM EDT
    BK Lim

    He was right that's why he is dead. May he RIP.

    • 1 vote
    #10.1 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:25 AM EDT
    Dowser

    great article, eth. Thanks.

    The impact is that the sea creatures are all dead. Or poisoned and dying. Or poisoned to move up the food chain forever.

    I was especially interested in the differences between sampling techniques. I sure don't want the NOAA on any of my job sites, taking samples.

    • 1 vote
    #10.2 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:56 AM EDT
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    eth-2299740

    Your are welcome Dowser.

    I agree completely.

    Perusing the articles on FOSL is downright sickening what is happening in the gulf.

    I can't imagine being one of the people who was bleeding profusely from an orifice.

    There is one posting where the toxicologist found the esophaguses of 3 people who died had dissolved. All I can say is don't eat any seafood. Not worth the risk.

    BTW - an article posted today says oil sheen's are getting worse.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#11 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:33 PM EDT
    BK Lim

    eth

    Thanks for keeping us informed and updated on the gulf.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#12 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:57 PM EDT
    eth-2299740

    You are welcome BK

    • 1 vote
    #12.1 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:43 PM EDT
    Dowser

    (((((((((((eth)))))))))))

    I read that article, too. Pretty sickening.

    • 1 vote
    #12.2 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:59 PM EDT
    eth-2299740

    (((((((((((Dowser)))))))))))

      #12.3 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:43 AM EDT
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