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Our worst fears of vaporising hydrates from the deep confirmed-Part IIc of Root Causes.

Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:45 PM EDT
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Figure 125-1 Pimpled seafloor with shallow smooth depressions are features indicative of continuous vaporisation of hydrates from superficial clayey hydrate layer. The moving Rov video (recorded 18 Oct 2010) shows the general seafloor condition over a large area. Unfortunately the video did not display the coordinates.

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVdnkMxocl0&feature=player_embedded.

Figure 125-2 Methane vaporising from the seafloor at well A Youtube.Com/Watch?V=5ylz4cfjg5y&Feature=Related. This stationary Rov video (recorded on 3rd Sept 2010) like many, shows the seafloor in the vicinity of Well A. The rising diffused gaseous mist is well enhanced by the lighted background.

~~~~ Quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate)~~~~~~~

Methane clathrate, also called methane hydrate, hydromethane, methane ice or "fire ice" is a solid clathrate compound (more specifically, a clathrate hydrate) in which a large amount of methane is trapped within a crystal structure of water, forming a solid similar to ice.[1] Originally thought to occur only in the outer regions of the Solar System where temperatures are low and water ice is common, significant deposits of methane clathrate have been found under sediments on the ocean floors of Earth.[2]

Methane clathrates are common constituents of the shallow marine geosphere, and they occur both in deep sedimentary structures, and as outcrops on the ocean floor. Methane hydrates are believed to form by migration of gas from depth along geological faults, followed by precipitation, or crystallization, on contact of the rising gas stream with cold sea water. Methane clathrates are also present in deep Antarctic ice cores, and record a history of atmospheric methane concentrations, dating to 800,000 years ago.[3] The ice-core methane clathrate record is a primary source of data for global warming research, along with oxygen and carbon dioxide.

The average methane clathrate hydrate composition is 1 mole of methane for every 5.75 moles of water, though this is dependent on how many methane molecules "fit" into the various cage structures of the water lattice. The observed density is around 0.9 g/cm3.[4] One litre of methane clathrate solid would therefore contain, on average, 168 litres of methane gas (at STP).[nb 1]

Methane forms a structure I hydrate with two dodecahedral (12 vertices, thus 12 water molecules) and six tetradecahedral (14 water molecules) water cages per unit cell. This compares with a hydration number of 20 for methane in aqueous solution.[5] A methane clathrate MAS NMR spectrum recorded at 275 K and 3.1 MPa shows a peak for each cage type and a separate peak for gas phase methane.[citation needed] Recently, a clay-methane hydrate intercalate was synthesized in which a methane hydrate complex was introduced at the interlayer of a sodium-rich montmorillonite clay. The upper temperature stability of this phase is similar to that of structure I hydrate.[6]

~~~~~~~end of quote~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The methane – hydrate phase diagram is shown in figure 125-3 (from wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons).

Our early fears that hot oil and gases from the deep reservoir brought up to the shallower soil strata (above the hydrate stabilization level) through the gushing rouge well (S20BC) and the eroded permeable fault zones, seem confirmed by these Rov videos. See The-Diagrammatic-Illustration-That-Says-It-All.

The later videos recorded after the well was supposedly killed, confirm that we cannot “put the genie back into the bottle”. There is no point in fooling ourselves the well can be “capped, killed, sealed and delivered”. Instead there should be concerted efforts to alleviate the problem of escaping and corrosive fluids (salt water in combination with high pressured gases especially H2S) from the reservoir and getting into the upper fragile formation and Quaternary soil sequence where the environmental damages are “beyond patch-up”.

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BK Lim

The rouge well cannot be "capped, sealed and delivered" as promised by BP. Latest rov videos show confirm. The longer we wait, the worse it will get. Instead of focusing on the impossible, why not go for measures that alleviate the underground erosion of the shallow fragile salt structure, faulted and broken geology.

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Reply#1 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:12 PM EDT
BK Lim

Next postings will show videos of confirming BP had been busily grouting and sparking off concentrated methane/dispersed oil water column with high voltage wired-sparkers.

This is insane mass destruction. The continuous underwater explosions must have been a constant torture to the sea animals especially whales and dolphins hundreds and thousands of miles away.

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Reply#2 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:19 PM EDT
bore-head007

We need to do some God Damn thing to get this to the front. you are scooping every news source.

You are removing the credability that these @!$%#bag's hide behind.

I'm gonna start rattling the cages that I did before, and then some.

Keep digging Brother.

  • 6 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:49 PM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks Brother BH.

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#3.1 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:57 PM EDT
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sctodd

BK, These symptoms you see on the sea floor... do you normally find this around other drilling sites? And if you have seen this before how did the situation turn out? What do you expect is happening deep underneath the seafloor where we can not see? Is the worst case scenario still a factor here... such as the salt dome dissolving causing seafloor collapse? Thank you BK... Much Gratitude.

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Reply#4 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:28 PM EDT
BK Lim

Good question. It is common to see "pockmarks" or pitted depressions. Pimpled seabed is rare.

Pitted depressions - means the gas or fluid popped out thru the soft clay to form a single pockmark. This would be very similar to your molten chocolate in a pot when it is boiling. If the first layer (superficial layer) is hard, the fluid need to charge up to a higher pressure before it can exceed the hydrostatic pressure. Normally if the sediment is grainy (sandy), the fluid will find its way out faster without accumulating too much pressure. Only in cohesive sediment (like clay) are able to contain the fluid build-up until it pops. So the size and distribution of the pockmarks can tell us a lot about the type of sediment we are dealing.

In the Macondo case, a lot of the video I saw suggested to me that the original clay sediment had already been replaced by the heavy drilling mud. I have made many comments in the past about this. I will need to summarise later. That's why I can be so sure that BP had massive drilling losses.

Unlike pockmarks, pimples cannot be explained by forced expulsion of fluids. Instead the sediment get worn off (disintegrate) foliation by foliation. Clay in contact with water will wear off in thicker chunks. So I suspect it is the hydrate within the clayey sediment that evaporate off, at molecular level. That's why the depressions are so shallow, even and smooth. The "pimples" are the remnants left behind as they are richer in clay content. But eventually these pimples will also disintegrate. The features are not permanent and ever changing.

Hydrates vaporising to gaseous methane can only happen if there is an increase in temperature or reduction in pressure. Since the pressure (hydrostatic) remains the same, it must be the temperature which we were most worried about before they even capped the well. At least with the gushing well, the increase in temp is confined to the well.

The extensive grouting, high voltage sparker-induced explosion and the spreading of the oil and gas far and wide, actually did much more damage than just the gushing well.

We have an old proverb: BP is just like the Rat trying to repair the broken bag of grains.

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#4.1 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:34 PM EDT
etva

Thank you for that explanation -- it was very clear and helpful. Also, thanks for the article.

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#4.2 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:45 PM EDT
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eth-2299740

Very Good - the articles just keep getting better and better. (All excellent)

BTW - (hate to say this) could they drill many wells to capture oil and deplete well faster?

  • 6 votes
Reply#5 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:51 AM EDT
BK Lim

It is only the economics. Many Oil Exploration geologists have advocated this before.

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#5.1 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:09 PM EDT
BK Lim

Eth

If there is so much oil down there, it would make economic sense to concentrate in one area with better safety standards rather than spread over many exploration projects each trying to beat the "regulation game and cutting costs to maximise profit".

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#5.2 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:33 PM EDT
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Strongpaw

great article BK. Hv been follow'n yr col. Tks 4 yr dedicat'd work

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Reply#6 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:21 AM EDT
BK Lim

Strongpaw, thanks for your strong support

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#6.1 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:33 PM EDT
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BK Lim

In recent ROVs' videos, many have wondered and speculated on the feathery flakes normally white in color but occasionally changing to orangey to black. The larger ones appear to be alive, wiggling or flapping in smooth motion floating by.

I am afraid these feathery cotton-like flakes are methane calthrate being formed back again from high concentration of methane gas in the water. The methane calthrate vaporise into gaseous methane on the seafloor but not in concentrated bubbles to rise quickly enough. The temp in the water column is cold enough for snow flakes of dissolved methane trapped by water molecules. They float around since methane forms a structure I hydrate with two dodecahedral (12 vertices, thus 12 water molecules) and six tetradecahedral (14 water molecules) water cages per unit cell. This compares with a hydration number of 20 for methane in aqueous solution.[5]

Clathrate hydrates (or gas clathrates, gas hydrates, clathrates, hydrates, etc.) are crystalline water-based solids physically resembling ice, in which small non polar molecules (typically gases) are trapped inside "cages" of hydrogen bonded water molecules. In other words, clathrate hydrates are clathrate compounds in which the host molecule is water and the guest molecule is typically a gas. Without the support of the trapped molecules, the lattice structure of hydrate clathrates would collapse into conventional ice crystal structure or liquid water...... from Wikipedia.

Unlike methane bubbles that forced through the sediment or the leaking valves, methane vaporised from hydrates on the seafloor (due to warming temp) are in dissolved state. Under saturated and suitable pressure/temp, methane Calthrate recrystallise (like in snowflake formation) into these feathery flakes. Under natural conditions, they would eventually settle down, accumulate and under hydrostatic pressure compress to squeeze out the water molecules to form solid methane hydrate ice or mixed with the clay into the sediment layer.

The changing color is due to the reflected light. They would normally look white due to internal light reflection. But at certain angles due to refracted light, colours would change. Black is when no light is reflected or scattered back to the camera. Hope this makes sense.

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Reply#7 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:03 PM EDT
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