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Those who have permitted and agreed to this cover-up are just as responsible as BP, the corporate people who are proud to let everyone know they are Beyond Petroleum. Those of us living on the Gulf coast must demand from every politician and government agency, from the national to the local level, an explanation as to why they allowed this to happen and why they are allowing it to continue. They are all responsible for lying to us and for covering up the truth.
The Gulf Blue Plague
Seeded on Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:41 PM EDT
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What is revealed below regarding BP and their 'beyond petroleum' activities, both prior to and including their Gulf of Mexico catastrophe, will create a picture for the reader one pixel dot at a time. Once the person who reads everything presented here connects all the dots of the picture, it will be more than obvious that BP has tried to fool Mother Nature and she's retaliating with a vengeance that is affecting the entire world. This is a perilous game that has now gotten out of control. What began in the Gulf of Mexico in as early as February 2010 has now escalated into a man-made biological nightmare of unknown proportions.
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#1 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:45 PM EDTThe last and only defense against the ongoing Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is tiny-billions of hydrocarbon-chewing microbes. In fact, the primary motive for using the more than 830,000 gallons of chemical dispersants on the oil slick both above and below the surface of the sea is to break the oil into smaller droplets that bacteria can more easily consume". (5)
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#2 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:51 PM EDTescalated into a man-made biological nightmare of unknown proportions.
And it will be with us for a long time. Good seed BK.
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#4 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:25 PM EDTWe already know how sea mammals such as whales and porpoises have reacted. Those who haven't escaped the affected areas of the Gulf have died along with all other marine life and coastal vegetation. While human health effects from crude oil exposure are well known, the effects of dispersants containing oil-eating artificial bacteria are not known
We already know that these retards have destroyed untold numbers of Marine Mammals, and under species. Those queer bastards have created a monster, and Jane Lubchenco, Marine Scientis(?)NOAA blames the death of turtles on fishermen, as she allows these creepy @!$%#ers to inject these microbes that could be flesh eating?
Jail for that bitch. Right along side all the BP @!$%#s she favors, over the welfare of marine mammals, and fish, and US citizen's of which she is charged to protect, but has not.
Please recall my seeded article from Gloucestertimes.com, profiling her inaction in the gulf, when she had the power to stop this from ever happening. She wrote to bp, and MMS to alert they were non compliant with paper work.
Funny as @!$%#, that BP was allowed to proceed with no sanctions, or interuptions, but some poor flounder fisherman that was missing one free piece of paper, a letter, from nmfs, was fined $ 10,000 dollars, and a notice of violation.
I wonder if the good doctor owns stock in this interesting, and evil venture.
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I'll bet she put her entire retirement on it! B(^*(&^cth! It sounds like the 'super virus' that I heard about on the History channel (Revelation/Armageddon) the other night. I couldn't sleep afterward---apparently I'm in for another night of no sleep. Evil Evil people they are! Ya, thats a good one about the turtles----they torch how many protected turtles and then have the gonads to say the turtles died from overfishing!!!! Burns MY BISCUITS!!!!!
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fw. She knew this could happen, when she notified them about the non compliancy letter.
She KNEW it COULDhappen, but played poker, and she held a @!$%#ty hand!
She was so busy covering up the Jones/Juliard/Cohen issue, that she was distracted from fulfilling her duties to enforce the Marine Mammal Protection Act. We should now refer to this subject as the Three Stooges Operation.
She was caught red handed as a liar, and a manipulator, as far as these dead sea turtles.
MNFS says fishermen killed them, my ass! THEY killed them, right along side of BP.
There are so many questions about her dealings, as far as conflict of interest. Andy Rosenberg, her college lover, and NOAA insider,gets a six + million dollar contract for his private company, and announces the awarding before NOAA releases the info? Connected?
You Betcha! This Agency, and all peripheral connections must be subjected to a full congressional investigation, and these fraudulent Corpo/enviros, that have sold out true environmentalists that expect these foney bastards to be truthful. I know I do, and I expect them to do the honorable thing. Fall on their dagger's, and die.
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"Fall on their dagger's, and die."
I vote for that BH. The problem is that even if they did that we still have this 'blue' gross thing as a legacy! Should make the $%%$^%$ eat it! Swim in it! Live in it!
I have a whole new perception of Jellyfish Jane & its not lady like to say honestly what that is!
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No worries fw, I will say plenty enough for the both of us!
The roasting pits coals are getting white hot.
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Switching from fossil fuel domination to renewable resources domination is not a simple transition. First it must be proven to the likely investors, those select few who currently reap the untold billions in profits from fossil fuel, that they will be able to continue their plunder without missing a beat.
Therefore New and/or Green Technology's profits must be made to match or exceed the current level of fossil fuels profit exploitation. It is simple economics, does anyone really think that those select few who are accumulating vast billions and billions in current profits are going to just sit idle while their source of income dwindles.
The answer is a resounding no, those select few (euphemistically called entrepreneurs) will orchestrate scientific development and provide the needed bought and paid legislation to protect and advance their own prosperity, if we let them and guess who pays the bill again as usual?
Paraphrasing President Dwight Eisenhower,
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.
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#5 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:30 AM EDTYet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded
Wow,Ray . That is exactly what has happened at NOAA/NMFS, and the BOGUS research that has put EDF/BP shill in charge.
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We all know the ONLY problem to switching to renewable resources is the lack of ability to own completely and monopolize the resource i.e. you can't own sunshine. That is the only reason we have not made more advances in these areas.
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I dunno tesla, I think we got lazy.
Oil is conveient. Unless you spread it all over the friggin planet, eh, BP? @!$%#bags.
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And oil can be owned monopolized and used to control entire countries ways of life, economies, infrastructure,and quality of life. Make no mistake energy has always been about control. No matter what the substance be it fire or oil or water or food.
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This is all pretty scary....really.....it is.
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#6 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:33 AM EDTFreaks me out so bad! Hope is so hard to have when one realizes what is being done. It may seem out of my reach in the northeast--but that is not so because once the population is infected--and that has started---this evil crap can travel at who knows how fast a rate! Good Lord!
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It is like the Dr Doom's evil scheme in a James Bond movie.
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I sent the article out on my email list just a few minutes ago and asked that they inturn make certain others have the information. Again, thanks BK for the enlightenment. Wish it were just a Bond movie because thats where it belongs!
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I had a quick read before seeding. I also wish it was a James Bond movie with a happy ending. But it seems too detailed (scientifically) to be frictional.
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I can't figure out why the firewall at work won't let me see the article. I will try to catch this tonight.
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Its probably 'programmed' for security against as many as possible from viewing as this article is something that is just beyond scary! I just read it and I just---its going to take me some time to wrap my head around it without going into a panic! Be ready when you get haome or elsewhere and read it Mrs D.--makes the fishing plight, economy, unemployment.....look like nothing!
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OMG... reading all the comments has made me kinda scared and I haven't read it yet. I have a feeling I'm going to be upset tonight. :-(
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All I can think about after the volcano in Indonesia & the Huge tsunami there as well & earthquake--then this Blue Plague---I watched the History channel the other night about Revelation/Armegeddon & those details or estimations (which covered natural disasters and a supervirus)keep coming back to haunt my brain! Can anything be done to save us from these horrid people and their greedy bag ways.? What good does all the money in the world do for a person if there isn't a world to frolick in? Can't eat it and even if you did, its not filling, delicious or nutritional! Actually it is filthy (worked in a bank in my history)! I still vote for these anuses to be force fed some nice Blu Plague seafood and be given baths in the nasty they have created and they should have to do it under quarantive--but televised--so that we all don't become infected--then we all watch as they explain that the coerxit mixed with computerized bacteria infiltrate their systems and explain that it its not harmful!!!
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Thank you Fishwarrior. I vote to put you in charge of the Mass Destruction Crime Tribunal. I volunteer to be one of the executors.
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You fellas shouldn't shower me with such alluring things--shucks! I could be called the MDCT--now that sounds like a title that should be shared--we can let every affected human take turns!!!!
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I just finished reading the article. I am totally stunned and I'm going to say I have tears in my eyes!!! I don't know if I blame myself, the media or our government...!!! We The People... are no longer it seems. I have to end it here. I've been trying to post words for over 30 minutes and I don't know the words that I wish to express. I'm so disgusted I can't stand it.
I am an inadequate "fighter" because of my lack of knowledge and understanding. I just feel blessed to have met some wonderful and intelligent friends that help me understand. Thank you all. I will be reading this article again. I have no word to describe how I feel right now. Love to all my friends♥. Thanks to you all!
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Mrs D look at my next post down (#8) then look at Bk's response (#8.1). It may ease it up a smidge!
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fishwarrior, there is always hope until our last breath. This is our survival instinct.
Thank you dear lady. It does a bit. I'm just so @!$%#ing angry tonight!!! Whatever happened to truth, compassion for your fellow man and honor in today's World? (((((fishwarrior♥))))) I will always pray for you, your family, and your future generations prosperity.
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Mrs D
There is sadness in each and everyone's heart over this disaster which could have been averted. My message in most of my articles is - there are 2 parts to any major disaster. The human failings and the geohazards. With modern technology, we can pick the geohazards accurately by 80 to 90%, leaving only 10% dicey cases. In the projects that I handled we can always move away from the 10% unsure situation. In essence we can have 100% success in averting any blowout. It is not difficult and I am no genius, just an average geo. Anybody can achieve, I really mean it (you included Mrs D). I practised it every day in my life. It works on the logical elimination process and looking at things in total as opposed to "isolation". That way we can easily determine the truth in anything.
Now the hard part is the Human Failings caused by greed, quick profit, aggressiveness and other traits needed to get to the top of the pack (the rat race). Unfortunately, in every industry, the top management is normally filled up by such people. Take Jane Lubchenco for example. I am quite sure she knows nuts about actual fishing (like me) but she could plot and scheme to get ahead at the expense of others or the environment.
There are more people who are up-right than those who are crooked (top of the pyramid). Unfortunately we are divided and mis-informed by those in control (that's their secret). I like everybody else are all learning. So do not feel inadequate (that is also another one of their secret weapon). The fact that you realise that you had been lied to, you have broken free the first few chains that bind you under their control.
From very young I was taught that the truth is simple and easy to understand. If it is deliberately confusing (not because of language barrier etc) chances are the "other side (the dark side)" does not want you to know the truth (distorted truth or information).
I hope that bit helps.
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I was just going to sign off NV when I clicked on my tracker. I'm glad I did BK... Thank you for your words. :-) You made some of my inadequacies seem okay. I will sleep better tonight. ((((BK)))))
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BK--thank you for your expose on this--otherwise us regular people would never know! You are such a smart cookie! I am thankful for your share of vast information. I wonder how you deal with all the knowledge that you have? Do you still have any iota of hope left within you? Please share this with us as it may be helpful to us that are sincerely freaked right out of our skins! Thank you Bk.
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#8 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:06 AM EDTfishwarrior, there is always hope until our last breath. This is our survival instinct. Nothing is stable and many times when the odds are against us (good) and the case seems hopeless, even a small opportunity (or a slip on the evil side) can tilt the tide of fortune. I would continue in my relentless effort till the last man standing.
In the 1991 Barton BT-5 blowout, everyone in that meeting after watching the rov video of the seafloor cracking up was in firm favour of shutting down the platform. My dept boss had brought me along only as a junior observer. He kicked me so hard (under the table) when I stood up to say "things just don't add up". A depositional basin or channel (as it was depicted) could not logically have developed on top of a hill (anticline). I remember using a thick soft cover book to illustrate the point.
In quivering voice I presented my case (without preparation) on this basic contradiction and the chief engineer of Sarawak Shell (whose head was on the chopping block for the failing platform foundation) agreed to defer the shutdown pending my investigation. Today that platform still stands, 19 years after its collapse was deemed imminent.
The very long chain of human errors and management cover-ups (wilful management negligence) I discovered during my investigation convinced me that such aggressive and reckless exploration management practices would continue to grow and eventually be the root causes of even worse disasters. In the 16 years after that, I have observed even worse unethical practices in almost all the countries I have worked in.
If insiders cannot change from within, we have to force the change from outside. And I believe there are many insiders who have the same fears I had but are unable to convince change from within. That is why I said "many are sending coded SOS messages" in my recent articles. We should not let them risk their jobs and lives by doing nothing.
Just as you, borehead, Mary Beth and others (sorry I cannot remember offhand the no of other names I have read) are doing something to help the fishing industry, we must extend the same effort to the oil industry. It might look healthy and wealthy from the outside, but it is dying of Cancer. The greedy and unscrupulous Managers like Tony Hayward would stop at nothing to get their way and profit handsomely from the BP's oil spill.
Like The Cancer Cells or Virus, they have mutated and morphed to feed on the host (Oil Industry) eventually leaving it bone-dry. It is his self-interest showing when he commented that he wanted his "Luxurious-Yacht sailing life back".
I agree with Ray Burchard. But which ever renewable energy source that is set to replace the oil, we would still face the same problems. It is the operator - not the machine that is behind the manipulation.
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BK, I'm not suggesting that we will ever be in the position to replace our dependence on fossil fuel. However if we can understand that fossil fuel like forestation and fresh water serve other purposes than just for man's exploitation/consumption and therefore wisely augment its depletion with the use of renewable resources, we can, by using "peak oil" as an equilibrium to avoid the hazards of the extremes Yes we will be beset by the same maladies if we allow the very same greed to dictate.
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It always is--'operator'. Perhaps that is the truest fall of mankind?? When will we learn? When will these evil few pay up for the masses? We'll all suffer from the hands of a few. I want to know why this stuff doesn't get into the news. We hear some of the most inconsequential stuff in the news, but something of this magnitude doesn't get the time of day. I sent the article out today on my list and asked that they in turn move it along--since the news has not done its job of informing the people. We can at least accomplish that much. Next, I'll send it up to my 2 senators--if nothing else--hopefully it'll rock their very existence as it has mine! I'll also send it to a lawyer in Gloucester who is heading the lawsuit against Noaa and see if it helps
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Yes Ray, the key word is "understanding". Whatever energy we use, we need to understand the fundamentals and do not end up as another Chernobyl . We also need to control that "Greed" monster in ourselves. You will notice that all the empires in history self-destructed fundamentally.
It is the "operator". And people make money out of thin air.
I have uncovered that one of the cleanest countries in the world (top 5 least corrupted) and the largest / busiest maritime port with an impeccable medical reputation; there is a racket where offshore medical certificates are peddled out without physical examination. Yes these fake medical certificates can be obtained by just a phone call instantly at the last minute especially if your vessel is about to sail. Would you pay $1000 for a fake medical cert if holding your vessel up could cost you $50,000/day or more at port? Sending your seaman for a legitimate check up would cost you less $50.
Now the juicy part. What does the national medical council do when you forward this "straight forward medical fraud" complaint? First they tried to delay. When you press for answers, they dismissed it. Now does this sound familiar with the BP-MMS- NOAA case?
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Those who have permitted and agreed to this cover-up are just as responsible as BP, the corporate people who are proud to let everyone know they are Beyond Petroleum. Those of us living on the Gulf coast must demand from every politician and government agency, from the national to the local level, an explanation as to why they allowed this to happen and why they are allowing it to continue. They are all responsible for lying to us and for covering up the truth.
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Thus, its our own greed that has existed for centuries--millenia---that'll be our undoing! How sad.
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Fishwarrior
BK Lim
This last weekend I had been presenting an idea to fishwarrior and a number of others . About how we might replenish the food supply . Replenish the gulf and the oceans with small fish to grow to market size . With the idea of feeding the ever growing world . The 6 billion people .
Now will we have to do this just to feed 3 billion people left behind ?
If somebody were to dig back through my comments from the first of the oil spill news . I've been saying this was going to kill millions with respiratory problems . A friend of mine , from Mobile , Al . , said the oil raises up in the air and poof it is gone . Well Poof it's not gone .
Fishwarrior I need to keep this short . Is now the time to pursue my idea more than ever ?
RON
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I guess maybe Ron. Just gots to find the details out--still waiting to hear from those with much more of the 'know' than me!
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Ron
I am still trying to track your posting. Haven't found it yet so I cannot comment.
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Sorry , I don't have much time The time bandits are pecking over the computer already . The idea is to use a ship as a hatchery . to raise fingerling's . For other smaller ships to let them out where they are needed . Such as the gulf and oceans there it is proved , they have been over fished . Not just one kind of fish , but all species needed to have a balance of nature .
A simple idea but not simple to do .
Have the big ship as a platform to also produce renewable energy . To supply a city on shore . A research ship for all the above .
The science would have to be much better than we're seeing today .
I've been exchanging this idea with some very good ,kind intelligent people . But you more learned , in the area of science . So Please get back with me
I've been presenting this idea as hints and trying not to tell to much . I've thought it out much further than I can let out here . I think you understand .
I got to go for now . I'll try and check back about 3:00 AM .
RON
I would like to ask about a way to clean this up . I've got an idea .
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I just saw a video on oil-eating microbes, see this
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread619957/pg20
The results seem amazing and the microbes natural occurring (unlike BP's synthetic DNA, Yikes!).
Maybe you can rear the fishes to eat away the microbes.
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Maybe the fish can eat the microbes???That would be very cool. Ron--I wouldn't say I'm more learned in the area of science--I'd say that about BK though!!! I just know a thing or two (basics) and I am able to understand what I read--mostly. Although the CERN Castor machine and that enrgy particle (Ice9)--God Particle---Now that's mind blowing freaky stuff. Then put the 'Blue Plague' thing alongside that--I don't think I can handle another read like those--WHEWW!
I am waiting to see what kind of food is required! Something that they would naturally eat (not land based food like in typical aquaculture). I think temperature could be adjusted on your ship idea to accommodate the species being raised.
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BK Lim--I don't know how to paste the seeded thing that BH put up where Ron's ideas are located. but if go over to borehead's and scroll down to almost the very bottom (if not all the way) his comments are in that seed on RFA---Catch Shares in Wyoming (or something close to that). Sorry--still trying to fig. the details of the vine!!!
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B K Lim
I might be way off base . What would happen if they were to heat up the oil mixed in with the sand , on the bottom of the gulf ? Could this release it from the sand . Then could it be pumped to the top ? If so, how contaminated might it be ? How harmful would it be to burn it once up on the top of the water ?
Questions , questions that is all I have at the moment .
At the moment , the time bandits are trying to pull me away .
I've been thinking about this from the time they were talking about the plums of oil . Now it might be in a better place to retrieve it .
I get back with you later .
RON
I'm going to go back and read you article again . So I can understand this issue ,better .
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Ron,
We should avoid heating up the base of the gulf as it will release more methane from the hydrates.
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That's right Briwnys. There is enough warming as it is already.
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Thank you both . I didn't know . What makes oil turn into tar balls ?
If this oil is contaminated . What did they do with all the tar balls they gathered up ?
Would it be safe and better to burn it , instead of putting it in a landfill ?
When I was about four years old , the man who lived next door to us was a chemical engineer .
He and his wife stayed family friend of my parents , for over fifty years , up until their death She had died a number of years ago . He passed away about four years ago .
He had worked and traveled all over the world . He would tell about some of his work and places he had been . He had a gift of being able to tell about how they did their work , where I could understand what he was talking about . One of them was how they installed scrubbers at a pulp wood mill .Charging the particles to pull the pollution out of the smoke stack . I might have been twelve , but I understood . Now that he is gone , I've got hundreds of questions , I wish I could ask him .
So from time to time , I might ask you a question or two , like I might have ask him .
RON
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Ron, you are welcome to ask any question. Problem is whether I have the answer but I am sure there will be others who will chip in with their expertise.
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I may simply be foolish but how about getting the sh.. off the planet as an option? Sun would make a nice incinerator no? Or drop the sh.. on Venus probably would not survive the atmosphere?
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Interseting thought tesla013! Never thought of that before. We could load up a big rocket with the sh%^5 and send it into the sun or elsewhere---plenty of places to pick in space.
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I always had this idea we could clean the planet put people to work doing it load up the trash into them nuke missiles and launch them off planet. Pretty simplistic I know but sure would solve a lot of problems. But again control and who has it comes into play. I wonder who is stopping us from considering these options?
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Who---well it can only be a minority vs. the majority that would love to see this through. Although, I would like to add a few humans into the trach missile--would that be ok as they are part and parcle to the problems of greed and systemic rotting of the planet?? We would also need to start to globally treat the planet much better vs saying we can just send the grody stuff out into space.
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I think the end result of cleaning it up in the first place would build a kind of pride in our home. I hope anyway. As for your people(lol) why not just put them to work cleaning out all the nuclear waste rods in ditches and such they claim to be "safe" be kind poetic justice No? If we took control provided windmills solar panels thermal hydro, coal and oil would become an oddity, antique as it were. You put the power in the hands of people they will usually do what is right.
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First--if we put 'my people' LOL to work cleaning it up--then they'll be contaminated and need to get into the rocket anyway, but I like that you want them to clean up their mess--good point! I think greed is an inherent trait to mankind (one of the 7 deadly eh) and someone else will pull the same poop--sad, but true. However, once we make examples of the first batch ( the cleaner-uppers that got launched into space)--then it'll definitely make people think before kicking it up with the greed.
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Deterrent is the answer. Despite all their PR, they had been polluting Mother nature all this while with impunity. Then they blame it all up on someone else.
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I've got to tell you this one .
There was a new blond astronaut . They were asking her what planet she might want to visit .
Without a moment of thought , she said . I want to visit the Sun .
No, no ,you can't visit the Sun , it's to hot they answered .
She said , why not ? We can go at night !
RON
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Fishwarrior , BK lim , Bore Head , MightyJ , and all the others .
My Biggest Idea has been floating around in my head for a very long time . I've tried to work out many details . I've tried to think how I could get it started all by myself . With my resources and ability's being limited , I'll never get there .
Each of you have been so kind , as to show interest .
This will take some time , and I hope I'm up to it . This is something I've never done .
I'm going to try and present as much of my big idea to you , in an article .
I might come to some of you for help . You might find out how dumb I am . When I'm making my comments . I keep thinking , if I can get all the letters and works in the right place . I can get out of the sixth grade and move up to high school . I've done everything I could to keep having to write anything . Now I want to change the world with my words .
Mrs D should like this , she likes quotes . I've got a saying , on a piece of paper in front of me .
Fear Is Temporary , Regret Is Forever .
I keep looking at this and thinking . I'll regret myself , if I don't tell about My Biggest Idea .
If I make a fool of myself , so be it . If I change the world just a little , good . If I give others idea's to work on and change the world , great .
Some of you know enough about me , to know I'm not doing this for me . I have to get over the fear of putting myself out there , where all can see and take shots at my small ego . I hope this is something that I can give back to the world . I feel like , I'm looking at a huge mountain and haven't taken the first step , to climbing it . Sorry , I'm getting a little deep within myself . A mind should not be played with , when it's your mind , your playing with . Mrs D has anybody ever made such quote ? It's just something that came out .
May you understand . This will be a large step and undertaking for me . I hope I can come up to your and my expectations . May I open the eyes and minds of many . This is something that must be addressed .
My biggest idea . Planting the seeds , to feed the world .
RON
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#10 - Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:20 PM EDTRon
I would encourage you to speak your mind out in an article. Collect your thoughts and put them out in a systematic way, one at a time. At the start you might have the tendency to jam it all out at the same time. That is understandable. But the readers will get confused. One point at a time.
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Yeah Ron!!:) I can't wait for you to write it out. Very excited and please don't worry so much about it. Have to start somewhere and you are after a very noble thing---Feeding the World!! I like the way BK put it out there for you and I think you can and will do it.
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"I would rather lose in a cause that will someday win, than win in a cause that will someday lose."
-Woodrow Wilson
How about this one Ron? I'm not fond of Wilson... but, I do like the quote. :-)
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That's a good one Mrs D. I agree too.
Many will say we are fighting a losing cause. But even if we are losing, at least it will sow the seeds of of truths, determination and all things GOOD that will eventually triumph over evil. Sometimes we need to see the evils of destruction before we can see the goodness of creation.
Both are forever present.
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BK
Your correct , in saying not to try and tell it all at one time . I had already thought of presenting it in parts . First to ask a question and tell why we need to be able to feed 6 billion people . To make a joke about 6 billion Happy Meals , picked up at a drive-thru . After I've placed the idea out there , to be thought about . Second part :Come back and give some of the details . While asking some questions . To see what others , have to say . If I can get others involved . Just maybe , we can change the world Third part : he boring stuff . Like what would have to be done , to make it happen .Getting a presentation to gather . Setting up all the legal and business aspect of it
If I can get past the first three , go to Part four how could it be funded and by whom ?
By then . even you will run for the hills .L O L
I might be good for a couple of hundred word at a time . But to write a book , is beyond me .
This might take me weeks . For the next several weeks , I've got to work six days a week ..
I just got out a new pad of paper . I'll get started right away . First , let me get some sleep .
I'll check back in later .
RON
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When I wrote my first report (many moons ago), it was like a huge mountain to me. You would think it was easy after writing all those reports all those years to start blogging.
No I think we all have our own learning curve. I have been proficient with computer since my student days, hacking into the mainframe still using the reading card system. But I was still hesitant to write in public, just as we were all hesitant to speak in public. I finally put my foot down a few months ago.
So Ron, the first step is the most important. You will never know, you might be having not one but several books to your credit in the future. The future is what we want to make of it now.
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Thank you FW... it only made sense to me lately... know what I mean? (((fishwarrior)))
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#12 - Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:28 PM EDTI read it 2-3 times to make certain I understood and then responded. That quote stuck with me throughout the day and I have to tell you that I am grateful that you put that in my head cuz it removed the "Bleu Plague" thoughts and made room for the quote--thank you Mrs. D!!
~((((((((((Mrs D)))))))))))~
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When I came across this quote... it just fit for all of us feeling overwhelmed. I'm so happy that I have met you on NV... I have learned a lot from you dear lady. Baby steps... out of my range of knowledge!!! I'm learning a major point one step at a time. If I had a wish that God would grant me, I would ask for a trip to where you live, where this travesty is being committed, to visual see and hear the hardships that families are going though... and it just "burns my biscuits" (giggling) that I'm not there. You are a strong lady my dear friend♥!!! You have my respect and admiration!!!! :-)
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(((((((((Mrs D)))))))))) that was so sweet of you. FW you have my votes as well.
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(((((MrsD))))))--you are with me!! Wish granted:) You don't want to see and hear it--very depressing. To look these people in their faces is just heart-wrenching. Take my word on this. Don't worry about me--I'll be OK. I'm not in as bad a position as many. By some grace of God or sheer luck and a little know-how--we're doing OK. I feel so bad for those that did not get those things. I wish that it never came to this. If I had a wish--it'd be for people to behave toward others as they wish for others to behave toward themselves! Its a simple wish--its one we teach our children---and then I don't know what happens when we all turn into adults!! I would want you to come visit for the sheer delight of our state as it is quite beautiful! I would like for you to enjoy a gorgeous fall day with the leaves in their full glory. I would like to take you to the beach on a warm summers day and eat clams, fish or shrimp and pier fries (yummmmmm) and help me make a snad castle! I would like to enjoy lemonade or ice tea with you in my backyard while my kids splash and play with their friends in the pool. Thats the only way I'd like you to come to our area as I think you would find such joy in it and never want to leave!!! I hope you do decide to visit. Please let me know if that is something you intend to do and you can email me and I will give you the details. That would be a very nice wish for you and for me:)
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BK--DITTO for you too just like Mrs D. We can go grab BH too as he is not too far away from me. Ron will have to load himself and his wife in the rig and come on up too!
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Sounds great. Hope I can make it one day. Will give you a shout.
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Holy Cow!! I sat and read through the whole article. This is one of the most frightening things I've read in quite some time. So, the bottom line is what do we do at this point????
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#13 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:13 AM EDTBK said we continue to HOPE! I think thats all we have left. Although tesla had a good idea---make the BP upper management clean up after themselves (and they can use the upper NOAA management in the crew & MMS for some more crew) and we send the contaminants and the clean-up crew in a rocket aimed at the sun so it all burns up! Sound cruel? Well, I think what was done was worse! I am still trying to deal with what I read on the Blue Plague' and the sheer EVIL of it all. Gives a new look to what the 'DEVIL' may appear to be!!
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LT, what I can make out from all this is:
1) BP came to the conclusion that a mega oil spill disaster is inevitable
2) why let a disaster go to waste when they can make a "profitable killing" out of it.
3) When you short the market with a "man made" event you get prosecuted. But if since all disaster are considered "accidental" you can get away with it. That is why Goldman Sachs, Tony Hayward, three other directors and undisclosed no of BP managers do not get prosecuted even though they clearly profited for this insider trading. Martha Steward had to go to jail even for a smaller sum.
4) BP had the foresight (devious scheme become business acumen) to develop all these "advanced genetic" techniques to profit from the spill but not the decency to develop techniques to prevent the disaster from happening in the first place. Why?
5) We can sit and wait for the next shoe to drop (another mega disaster) to the benefit of BP and their subsidiaries or we can demand an investigation on why BP did nothing to prevent or more correctly, drove recklessly into the disaster? Many including me had consistently said that this disaster could have been averted given the number of signals or warning.
6) So far the investigation had only touch on the scapegoats. Are the exploration managers angels that did no wrong? So why is it so difficult to go after them? The well engineers, the drillers the deck hands were the sacrificial lambs. They were sent on a suicide mission. If the well did not blow up, fine and good BP cut corners to save a few million bucks. They struck oil and shares go up. Every one happy oblivious to the fact that several near disasters almost materialised into the real thing. Then on the next well BP's exploration managers become even more daring and reckless, drive the stake higher.
7) If the disaster did occur, BP still win. They profit from the amount of corexit to be dumped into the ocean. etc.
8) It is tail I win Head you lose. With a game like that, heck I will play any time and still win (make money).
9) Do we have the stomach to see all these replay again in the Gulf, Alaska, Shakalin, Caspian sea or South China Seas (just to name a few)?
I don't.
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#14 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:07 AM EDTFrom what I read on that article, it looks very much like BP was looking to cash in on more than one front. As you said, no matter what happened, BP would still win.
Yet, here we sit and we lose in more ways than one. Our ecosystem has been destroyed. Gobs and gobs of oil are still out there. A way of life has been destroyed for the fishermen. AND, our health could be at severe risk due to this bio organism BP has created. I'm sorry. This is NOT acceptable!
BP now has fishermen out of Mississippi, and Alabama doing commercials saying that fishing in the Gulf is fine and the seafood is safe. Blah, blah, blah......I have yet to see them do a commercial with a Louisiana fisherman. And we all know why!!
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ESpecially after reading about the 'blue plague'--I just cannot eat anything from the Gulf. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone other than: Jellyfish Jane,All EDF, All Pew, A. Rosenberg, All BP CEOs and upper management, Several Office of Law Enforcement (Under NOaa) that are proven criminals & probably some others--those mentioned should have to eat it on public tv and remain quarantined for public viewing. Then as the supervirus kicks in--they can tell the rest of us how there's nothing wrong with the seafood!
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Jellyfish Jane,All EDF, All Pew, A. Rosenberg, All BP CEOs and upper management, Several Office of Law Enforcement (Under NOaa) that are proven criminals & probably some others--those mentioned should have to eat it on public tv and remain quarantined for public viewing.
You have my support 100%
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To every body
My computer was infected , with two viruses . I hope I didn't pass them on to any of you .
I hope I've got it all cleared up . Let me know if I past any on to anyone . Forgive me . if I did .
RON
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#15 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:54 AM EDTNo probs here Ron. Best of luck with that. Maybe BP spilled some of that coerxit mixed with the man-made grody into your computer---yuk! Steam clean it???
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Could it be coming in through the air flowing through it . The only thing I can think of . I'll have to put a condom on it , for protection . Where can I buy a computer condom ? I'll stop by Best Buy and ask them . I hope they don't talk about me , when I leave the store . Maybe , this could be another idea , to work on . I can see me now . 2:00 am selling Computer Condom's on a info commercial.
I've got to go . The time bandits are after me . This is my early day . As will be tomorrow .
I didn't have long to look around . I'll try and sharpen my wit while at work . That is hard to do . I work around a number of duel people . I ask my wife if it wasn't the truth and she agreed .talk to you later .
RON
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#16 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:20 PM EDTComputer condoms--now there's a good one for the infomercials Ron! If you're having the prob.s then others may as well---since air doesn't pick and choose! Have a good day at work Ron. Talk to ya later.
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Well I won't need a computer condom after all . Yesterday , the router stopped working . We replace it and a cable and everything is working fine . I didn't want to try selling computer condoms on info commercials ,at 2:00 AM .
RON
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In a paper published in the journal Science, Terry Hazen and his colleagues at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory discovered in late May through early June 2010 that a previously unknown species of cold-water hydrocarbon-eating bacteria have been feasting on the underwater oil plumes degrading them at accelerated rates. (11)
We can now understand why, on May 15, BP/Synthetic Genome's CEO Craig Venter hinted of a new hydrocarbon-eating synthetic genome. Prior to that date, JCVI had already applied for numerous additional patents (we were able to find seven) regarding synthetic bioremediation, such as bacteria synthetic genomes which provide unique DNA information required for "replication of a free-living organism". In layman's terms, this means the BP and Synthetic Genome scientists had already created self-replicating bacteria "wherein the assembled DNA molecule is a [synthetic] genome" back in 2007. (13)
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#17 - Fri Nov 5, 2010 7:01 AM EDTOf all the various reports--like today's PAHs--how come this isn't getting out there????
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In layman's terms, this means the BP and Synthetic Genome scientists had already created self-replicating bacteria "wherein the assembled DNA molecule is a [synthetic] genome" back in 2007. (13)
Great. I'll think of BP as the Monsanto of the Sea.
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What can I say? BP is acting like they own the whole Gulf. Their famous quote " We will make it RIGHT". You think so? Right by whom?
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#18 - Fri Nov 5, 2010 11:41 AM EDTBK I am late on commenting on this, had it open for a long time, I think the article was great and had a lot of great points. I was wondering about the hydrocarbons that were genetically altered and how they would effect the earth. We now have a genetic hydrocarbon that allows viscous fluids to move easier. How will this effect the volcanic pressure and will it allow those fluids to flow easier, will the pressure of the hydrocarbons build up and cause increased volcanic activity. They have found high levels of hydrocarbons in rocks that came from volcanoes.
I was also wondering about the release of the altered genetic bacteria that ate oil and wondered what would happen if it got into the oil production fields. This article did address some of these questions.
This article also made reference to the effects on humans that many of us were wondering about. The surprise of the article was about the vaccines and the connection with BP and the Genome sequencing affiliates.
Thanks for the seed!
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#19 - Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:35 PM ESTThanks anon-1077600 for dropping a line. You may be interested in reading also (if you haven't yet)
The Gulf BLUE PLAGUE is Evolving
http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=940#p2272
According to the ER nurses, in the southern Mississippi and Louisiana areas there have been more than 600 cases of what their staffs have appropriately named the "BP flu". The vast majority of these "flu" cases are with those people who are working along the coast, as well as further offshore, on boats; and those who live along the southernmost areas along the Gulf of Mexico. One might initially think - based on mainstream media reports - that these flu-like symptoms are nothing to be overly concerned about. This is not a matter of 'take two aspirins and call me in the morning'. Nothing could be further from the truth.
As reported by researchers at Columbia Univ.'s National Center for Disaster Preparedness (NCDP) in late July 2010, more than 40 percent of adults living within ten miles of the coast say they have experienced direct exposure to the oil spill or clean-up effort. Within this group, nearly 40 percent reported physical symptoms of skin irritations and respiratory problems.
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#20 - Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:17 AM ESTI just read the link in #20. The Blue Plague is scary enough, but then it mentions a huge lake of oil underwater. Why is that not in the news everyday? Why don't we have an underwater camera down there to show everyone what is going on?
The oil and gas from the Biloxi Dome area has not stopped flowing. It's an oil exploration well which blew out on or about February 13, 2010 so severely that it deposited the Blow Out Preventer (BOP) and the steel well casing hundreds of yards away on the ocean floor. There is nothing there to cap or abate the oil flow with. It's an open hole that is nothing less than an oil, gas and tar volcano. While a certain leaking BP well may have been capped seven miles northeast of the Biloxi Dome area, an already large underwater lake of oil at an approximate 3,000 foot depth is rapidly growing each hour. It's estimated 9 mile length in May 2010 is surely dwarfed in size now.
Don't be fooled by the lack of surface oil being reported by the mainstream media shills and BP. Corexit hides what is beneath and Corexit is more toxic than crude oil itself. The only people denying the existence of the underwater plumes are the people at BP. And they offer no evidence to contradict the extremely solid evidence provided by four universities, including LSU, of the existence of these huge underwater plumes of oil.
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Thanks BK, will check it out, may be a while, I have several articles that are real old that I still have not read, opened it for later reading. I am glad you posted this article, it was very informative!
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We all have a lot of catching up to do, don't we? I did not realise the huge amount of money and research that went into this biogenetic part of the oil industry until this article came up.
A lot more could have been done on the prevention part. After all isn't prevention better than cure?
That was what we were being taught but in reality the "Cures" are more profitable and glamorous. The prevention simpler, cheaper and definitely less glamorous. Nobody notices the firemen when they were out there educating the kids not to play with fire. But one 911 incident later, the same firemen were all heroes splashed o headlines all over the world.
That's how it is. The fireworks attract attention, the preparation though more important for the fireworks to work properly, is hidden from view.
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Bk I would like to see less of the fireworks and hear about the prevention that is working, but I think many of us understand this, when you put it in such a down to earth way! :)
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