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Part 1 - Mystery of the New Found Oil revealed

Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:32 AM EDT
environment, bp, macondo-wells, geological-model, new-oil-spills
By BK Lim
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  • (first drafted in Nov2010, revised and updated 29 April 2011)

First of all the relief wells were unable to "bottom kill" or seal the real gusher (3rd well) at 18000ft below mudline. They could stop it momentarily but like applying band-aid to a high-pressured leaking hose, it comes off easily after a short while.

Much of the damage was done during the drilling itself. Shell had a blowout in the North Sea four months earlier (also on a Transocean rig) but could contain it even with all the accidental and random failures found at DWH. So what is difference in the Montara Oil Spill in the Timor Sea, off Australia and the DWH blowout at Macondo. For detailed explanation see

The root causes of bps oil spill the imminent threat of more oil related disasters part 1

The high risk of capping bps gushing well from the top

There is a special geohazards condition which I termed it – Gas-saturated Weak SubFormation (GWSF) zone. Even if the blow-out does not occur during drilling, the potent mix of gas and brine causes havoc in the vicinity of the well bore and will prevent the well-bore annulus from being cemented and sealed fast to the formation walls. Thus a blow-out is imminent even after the well is completed, sometimes years later as in Shell Barton BT5 in 1990, Sabah offshore Malaysia. For the cement to hold and prevent hydraulic connections, the cement needs to set and bind completely with the formation walls. But with a gas-saturated weak formation especially in the sub-formation zone, the overlying sediment are not rock solid and prone to sub-seabed erosion and slow transport of sediment out into the water column above. The emphasis is on this top sub-formation zone because of the possible gas escape routes to the water column. It would be fine if the original gas accumulation depletes itself. But large and significant accumulation of gases generally mean inexhaustible supply via permeable deep-seated faults. In Macondo's case, the permeable adjacent of the salt intrusion, an Allochthonous Salt structure (see figures 150-1) added to the wells' nightmares.

If this top hole section cannot be secured, leaking problems can still develop years later, even after the well is long abandoned; depending on the rate of sub-seabed erosion. Most of the leaks in the old abandoned wells would have been rejuvenated by the abnormal quake swarms after months of gas and oil spewing out of the 3rd Macondo well until about mid-Sept 2010. As erosion progressively removes disintegrated sediment particles, porosity increases with mass depletion.

The fearsome scenario of a giant oil batholith swelling up the whole sea floor and exploding like an undersea magma volcano generating tsunami has no sound geological basis (figures 150-2a & 150-3). It was conjured up and propagated by pro-BP advocates to scare the public into surrendering their demands for justification and transparency, in return for BP to save them from such a nightmarish scenario. One of NOAA video on an undersea volcanic eruption was widely displayed in June 2010 to demonstrate the possibility of such a destructive scenario. Anyone watching the submarine volcanic eruption would assume it occurred in the Gulf of Mexico. It was not.

That volcanic eruption was close to an active plate margin within the Pacific Ring of Fire, in the South Pacific 140 miles SW of Samoa. Its tectonic setting is nowhere similar to the Gulf of Mexico, a more stable intra-plate tectonic zone. The mechanism of a Mud Volcano is a world of a difference from the Magma Volcano. Whose idea was it to show a volcanic eruption to illustrate what was happening with the Macondo mud volcano in the Gulf? NOAA label was flashed in the brief video of the eruption with no explanation. Apparently the video which also appeared under Discovery news was released from high level sources. It is unbelievable that the high level sources could not differentiate between a magma and a mud volcano. Was this technical deception planned as early as 2009?

Was a scarier eruptive scenario deliberately fed to the public, so that when the worst such as massive eruptions, seafloor collapse and giant tsunami did not come to pass, any notion of population reduction conspiracy or planned disasters for profit could be shot down readily by BP's cyber mercenaries?

Granted the industry's professionals are contractually obligated to keep their silence. But why are gulf truth advocates with claims to insiders' information keeping their silence on this clear deception since June 2010? Surely an ex-oilfield executive with a 25-year successful career, who claims to be a self-funded independent researcher and having spent more than 7 months researching on Project Gulf Disaster could not have overlooked this and other blatant fallacies of the Gulf Disaster?

Yet the one exposing at least 20 such distorted truths on the gulf disaster be accused of being on BP's payroll, misleading the public, controlling the opposition (gulf activism) and preventing his brand of truth from reaching a wider audience? What good would an ex-oilfield executive truth advocate be, if he is so willfully ignorant of all the facts and only regurgitating what is already publicly known and promulgated by the main stream media?

Instead of endless supply of oil, gas and mud with expanding and swelling seabed due to increasing pressure, the reverse is true. Like popping a champagne bottle, the initial burst is at the highest pressure. What or where is the source of increasing pressure? It is such simple fundamental question that guides us through a minefield of geophysical impossibilities on the path of Truth Reporting. If companies are not required by law to have their accounts audited by registered accountants, would major corporations be responsible enough to declare their profits truthfully?

Thus a mass depletion model, whereby the eroded sediment are continuously transported by the escaping corrosive fluid (gas-brine mix) through the fractured or faulted pathways, is more plausible than the “oil batholith-volcanic eruption model” initiated by BP. Who else could and would spend millions of dollars promulgating such horse-@!$%#?

The presence of extensive methane hydrate within the Quaternary sediment of the Gulf increases the rate of mass depletion. The escaping gas and brine create new pathways to the seabed. Hot oil from the reservoir follows and get trapped at the sub-formation zones, beneath the Quaternary deposits with the stable hydrates. Warmed-up hydrates vaporise into gaseous methane which in turn provide endless supply of gas, and together with brine, further erode and increase the permeability of these new pathways to the seabed. Shale and mudstone beds which are normally impermeable to either gas or oil, easily disintegrated on contact with fluid consisting of gas and brine (technical publication in prep).

Eventually, with higher permeability and porosity the oil seeps higher and closer into the seabed. The proliferation does not spread uniformly in radial pattern. For obvious reasons, the erosion process proliferates preferentially along the major fault lines and at the edges of the salt structures and the continental shelf edges.

Follow the faults and canyons radiating from the Macondo prospect and you will find the gas seepage and oil accumulation beneath the Quaternary beds. So Matt Simmons' assertion that there were major gas and oil leaks 7 miles from the Macondo wells was not far-fetched after all. Our observations showed that all the 3 drilling rigs ( DD2, DD3 and DE) had spent considerable period of time at the shelf-edges of the Salt domes / Continental slopes. Why?

With no ROV videos we can only speculate but then there were not too many options for BP. Either they were drilling shallow wells to grout the growing fractures in the faults and precarious edges of the salt domes or were fanatically pumping in even more dispersant so that the leaking oil would stay submerged. A sea of floating oil in the vicinity of the Macondo wells would definitely not look good. No matter how much PR cosmetics were applied, a massive oil slick would be highly unconvincing of a permanently sealed well.

BP had hoped that by grouting the fissures, vents and faults around the Macondo wells, the still escaping oil and gas would disperse far and wide beneath the seafloor, far enough to absolve further blame of future oil spills such as the one observed on 18 March 2011.

Though fully aware of the sub-seabed erosion process, BP reckoned it would take more than a few years before sufficient oil could accumulate at shallow depths to pose a problem. By then the Macondo Blowout would be a distant memory. It would be too absurd in the minds of the innocent Public, to connect any new oil spills to the disastrous Macondo blowout. But BP probably underestimated the abnormal rapid rate of sub-seabed erosion aided by the endless supply of methane gas from the extensive occurrence of hydrates and the effect of the mass depletion (vaporisation, disintegration of the clayey beds containing the hydrates sediment structure and erosion/transportion of the disintegrated clay sediment).

Worse. Many of the major deep-seated faults cut through other oil reservoirs which might have been indiscriminately damaged from the thousands of wells drilled in the last decade. Many of these faults were already leaking or on the verge of leaking. The recent quake swarms, though small in magnitude are shallow and quite effective in hastening the sub-seafloor erosion process. Once leakage to the many marginal uneconomic reservoirs are established more light crude migrate to the shallower sub-seabed zones. The new shallow oil accumulation need not necessarily originate from the Macondo prospect.

An example of this effect is demonstrated by the observed large gas bubble near at the coastguard base in Louisiana on 22 April 2010, the day of the second underwater explosion which brought down the Deepwater Horizon. The huge gas release occurred due to the vibration of the second explosion which fractured the overburden sediment capping an existing shallow gas accumulation 40 miles away. The NW-SE fault zones passing through the Macondo prospect to the coastguard base, facilitated the transmission of pressure pulses, just like any hydraulic system used in our machines.

The Stage Is Set and Nature refuses to play ball.

As more oil from the reservoir seeps to the sub-formation, more hydrates in the stable zone vaporised and caused even more erosion over a wider area. Unlike gas, oil can only migrate through the more permeable pathways and accumulate at the more porous and sandy beds. Any oil seepage by its natural pressure would mean near-saturation in oil bearing capacity of the shallow emplacement (high porosity sand, turbidites and deltaic formation intercepted by the highly fractured eroded faulted pathways). Continual or periodic oil seeps start the accumulated differential pressure is sufficiently high to overcome the combine weight (pressure) of the overburden and water column. Alternatively, the buried oil accumulation can be released through a major tectonic event since Quaternary sediment are quite fragile and easily fractured once the corrosive gas and brine erosion processes had taken their toll.

If the 9.0 mag quake in Japan had occurred months earlier, the new shallow oil emplacement would have been insufficient to cause such a large area of oil slick. To refute arguments that these shallow oil emplacement existed before the 20 April 2010 blowout, there was no report of widespread oil slick following the 24 Dec 2004 Sumatra (9.0), 12 Jan 2010 Haiti (7.0) and 27 Feb 2010 Chile (8.8) quakes.

By the time of the 4 Sept Canterbury (7.1) NZ, 29 Sept Papua Indonesia (7.2), 21 Dec Bonin Islands Japan (7.4) and 25Dec Vanuatu, S Pacific (7.3) quakes occurred, the gulf waters were again sufficiently clear of surface oil (oil dispersed and submerged) for any new oil slick to be noticed. Again none was reported. The recent 18 Feb 2011 quake off Fort Morgan Alabama (3.5 mag) was probably too weak and too far NE from the main erosion and migration oil pathways (the fault zones striking through Louisiana) to trigger any substantial release of oil into the water column.

By the beginning of this year, tar balls (nickel to palm size) and dollar-sized sandy patches of oil were reportedly washing up in Grand Isle and Louisiana coast to Alabama beaches at Fort Morgon. Towards the end of March 2011, there had been increasing reports of new oil related sightings at the beaches of Louisiana. These are significant evidences of periodic or regular oil seeps coming out of the seabed, not from a single point oil spill (some fundamental reasons in part 2 of this article). It also means the oil migration pathways were filled to the brim and ripe for major simultaneous releases on a tectonic trigger with a much lowered threshold.

5 Jan 2011 Oil Washes Ashore Again At Grand Isle

The mayor's office said tar balls are coming ashore on Elmer's Island and sand dollar-sized patches of oil are washing up in Grand Isle. The environmental group Louisiana Bucket Brigade said it was the worst instance of oil contamination since the BP oil spill.

4 Jan 2011 Gulf Oil Spill Tarballs Continue To Wash Ashore On Fort Morgan, Alabama Beach

BP cleanup crews returned to work Monday after a 10 day break, WKRG reports, and they seem to have their work more than cut out for them. Tarballs have been washing up all along the shores of Alabama's Fort Morgan beach.

According to the Press-Register, they range in size from as small as a nickel to as large as a person's palm. The tarballs are so plentiful on the beach that they are seldom more than an inch apart from each other on shore.

22 March 2011 Oil, tar balls wash ashore on Louisiana coast

Emulsified oil, oil mousse and tar balls from an unknown source have been washing up on beaches from Grand Isle to West Timbalier Island along the Gulf of Mexico, a stretch of about 30 miles, a Louisiana official said. It was still heading west Monday afternoon.

Intra-Plate Tectonic Setting.

You will notice that the Macondo prospect lies almost 150 miles SE from the southern tip of the New Madrid fault zone. Check out my previous articles to understand the Quaternary intra-plate tectonic setting and movement.

23 Feb 2011 shallow-earthquakes-associated-with-the-new-madrid-fault-bps-mega-oil-spill

10 Nov 2010 update-on-bp-rigs-location-fault-connection-10-nov-2010

The Macondo prospect is located approximately at the pivoting point of the intra-plate movement. The red and black dotted lines represent discernible faults obscured by the Quaternary sediment cover. Fundamental geotechnical principles dictate that there should be stress-induced faults and the step-like breaks at the shelf edge are give-away indications. Competent geologists from the oil companies would have noticed the fragility of the Salt-geology tectonic system. Exploration objectives however overrode geohazards concerns and environmental implications in the event of a disaster. It still is today.

The events unfolding from this mega-disaster confirm what geohazards experts had known and feared all along. Environmental and Safety concerns by oil companies are horse-@!$%# for public consumptions only. What goes behind boardroom meetings is just the exact opposite.

Like a loaded spring, shallow quakes occurred in response to tensional releases following the prolonged erosion processes of uncontrolled oil and gas flows. Shallow quakes occur due to differential tensional forces caused by higher resistance at the generally younger Miocene formation and above. The shallow quakes also rejuvenated old fault lines and spread the sub-erosion process even wider. As the cycle repeats itself, leaks from abandoned wells and uneconomical-spent out reservoirs rejuvenated and accelerated along the weakened fault zones and precarious edges of the salt domes.

Yes BP underestimated the connected relationship between hydrates, faults, Quaternary Sediment and shallow earthquakes. The erosion rates were several factors faster than they had anticipated. Even before the 9.0 mag earthquake in Japan on 11 March 2011, scientists and research workers were already finding oily sediment buried beneath the seabed. We will come to this in part 2. Just 34 minutes after the giant quake, groundwater levels in South Florida fluctuate up to 3 inches for 2 hours (JapaneseQuake stirred Florida). P waves travelled through the earth at a much faster speed.

New 10 x 100 miles oil spill spotted after Japanese 9.0 mag Earthquake.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/possible-new-oil-spill-100-10-miles-reported-gulf-mexico

Independent pilots, including John Wathen of the Waterkeeper Alliance, and Bonnie Schumaker with Wings of Care, are currently flying out to investigate the spill. Schumaker reports having seen the sheen on Friday, March 18, and confirms that it is rapidly expanding. A Louisiana fisherman, who has chosen to remain anonymous at this time, also reports fresh oil coming ashore near South Pass, LA, and that cleanup crews are laying new boom near the beach.

Initially the new oil spill was suspected to have come from the Matterhorn field operated by W&T Technology using the production rig, Matterhorn Seastar. The oil was suspected to have come from a leak in the producing well. The Matterhorn field is located approximately 20 miles north of the Deepwater Horizon rig.

A couple of days later, a Houston-based oil company came forward to accept responsibility for the mysterious spill near Grand Isle, although it says it remains "surprised" that what it thought was a minor discharge from a long dormant well could have produced miles-long slicks. The company said it had reconnected the wellhead structure Tuesday (22 March 2011) morning and fully shut it in by 8:30 p.m. The amount spilled was estimated to be less than 5 gallons.

This is probably the case of a convenient scapegoat who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Even if the company had underestimated the amount spilled, the accidental spill which was reportedly noted over the weekend (19 / 20 March) could not account for the 10x100 miles sheen reported on 18 March. The Matterhorn Seastar did not report any spill. As a fully operational production rig, any spill would be an immediate concern. So unless the crews were sleeping on their job, they would have alerted the coast guards as soon as the oil sheen reached visible size like 1 to 2 miles diameters. I do not think American oil workers could be that slack, not to notice until it was over 100 miles long. Elementary, Watson!

Anglo-Suisse Offshore Partners was caught in the act of an accidental spill but the timing and the amount spilled from a dead well could not account for the instantaneous sighting and extent of the observed spill; certainly not the tar-balls. Probably guilty of not reporting previous accidental spills, the guilty-conscious party jumped to admit responsibility. But are we truly happy with napping any culprit without ever knowing the true cause. Is justice truly served when the wrong corporation ends up taking the tab? Could Justice in America have sunk to the level of dictatorial 3rd world countries where an innocent can be sent to the gallow for justice to be seen to have been done? Surely not.

Assuming 1 barrel of oil (US) to 42 US gallons conversion; 1000 sq miles with 50% void and 100 microns thick slick, it would mean a leak of 814,574 barrels of oil in 3 days or 271,000 barrels per day. Even if we employ the ridiculous 2 microns thick slick, the total amount of oil leaked was still an enormous 16,291 barrels of oil. Could a “dead well” have leaked that much oil?

So even if the oil sightings had been exaggerated, say only 1x10 mile sheen, that would still mean the dead well had leaked a total of 8,146 barrels (at 100 microns thick slick). With such a fantastic production rate from a “dead well”, why was it dead in the first place and why would America need to import oil at all? For comparison, the Macondo well was initially reported to be gushing at only 5,000 barrels/day. Later it was revised to between 50,000 to 100,000 barrels/day. How many days did it take to reach the shores of Louisiana? Another clear example of Physics Of Impossibilities?

Even with a surface current of 3 knots (calm sea state is max 1 knot), it would have taken the oil 10 hours to reach the coast of Louisiana, 30 miles away. The company reported their crews have been monitoring the site since September and did not report any oil discharge until the end of last week. Even if the leak started on 18 March (Friday) the oil could not have been sighted simultaneously at the coast, 30 miles away. It would certainly take more than 30 hours for the oil leaking out from a single point to stretch 100 miles even assuming the volume and rate of leak can be justified. So either everyone is lying, exaggerating or the observed facts does not fit any one single source of leak. Simple logic dictates that there must have been simultaneous releases of oil spread over 100 miles rather than a single source. The long trauma of BP's mega oil spill had obviously taken a toll on rationality. Widely perceived to be inapt in handling the BP mega-oil spill, officials are quick to act and will grasp any illogical explanation, as if to compensate for past mistakes. Poor Anglo-Suisse!

But how could multiple oil releases be coordinated across 100 miles of ocean? Obviously the NW-SE fault zones played an important role in accumulating the shallow oil emplacement waiting to be triggered by an abnormal tectonic event. It is no coincidence the new oil spill was noticed just days after the 11 March11 Japan Earthquake.

What I have shown are simple basic quantitative estimates? Even if we reduced the 10x100 miles oil slick to just 1 sq mile, the leak from a single has to be staggering. Still physically impossible. Just because most of the oil exploration activities are offshore away from public scrutiny, many who were in charge of documentation thought they could easily fudge the data, dates, quantities etc mostly to cheat on time or to cover data which they had overlooked or had not acquired. There are plenty of examples. Just as the accumulated shallow oil will again be released by another quake, these data frauds and cheating will one day come back to bite us.

My purpose is not to ridicule but to illustrate a sleeping giant oil industry heavily intoxicated with high oil prices and greed. The bottom-line matters and corporate America is too high brow and too blind to see simple solutions and preventive measures at hand. Why would I risk my professional reputation in coming out with a qualitative geological model in late July 2010? Reading geohazardous conditions is not so difficult. It is the oil companies that are bullheaded in sidelining sound geohazards' advice and assessment. Even without detailed seismic data, a relatively accurate and reliable model can be estimated. The qualitative model turns out to be the most accurate todate – see figure 150-1.

Drilling risks can be assessed and minimised. Risk assessment is basically elimination of possibilities using quantitative estimates whenever possible. Geohazards prediction is not hoco-pocus, black magic art or voodoo science. The recent Japan Nuclear disaster could have easily been averted by locating all their nuclear plants on the north-western coasts, and not at the south-eastern coastline facing the greatest Tsunami threats. A quick look at the volcanic arc would show that locating a nuclear plant near to Sendai would be committing HaraKiri (excuse the term) if a mega quake were to occur.

Grossly expensive and grandiose schemes always proceed at bullet-train speed in their haste to beat the dateline and budget. Simple, logical and fundamental considerations get lost in the express-train schedule. With this Just-In-Time Business model, sadly the whole world is rushing towards another disaster......sigh!

The saga of Gulf 's Facts and Fictions ...continues

Part 2 - Mystery of the recent fish kills, mass bird deaths and other consequences of BP's Macondo BLOWOUT

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BK Lim

Anglo-Suisse Offshore Partners was caught in the act of an accidental spill but the timing and the amount spilled from a dead well could not account for the instantaneous sighting and extent of the observed spill; certainly not the tar-balls. Probably guilty of not reporting previous accidental spills, the guilty-conscious party jumped to admit responsibility. But are we truly happy with napping any culprit without ever knowing the true cause. Is justice truly served when the wrong corporation ends up taking the tab?

Poor Anglo-Suisse took the tab for an oil spill 10 x 100 miles for a leak in its dead well. Is that really possible?

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Reply#1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:18 AM EDT
Walt42

Interesting !!

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:02 AM EDT
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sushicat

Glad to see your articles BK Lim. It seemed strange to hear of the oil in the Gulf after the Japan quake but everyone seemed to think there was no relation.

Yes BP underestimated the connected relationship between hydrates, faults, Quaternary Sediment and shallow earthquakes. The erosion rates were several factors faster than they had anticipated. Even before the 9.0 mag earthquake in Japan on 11 March 2011, scientists and research workers were already finding oily sediment buried beneath the seabed. We will come to this in part 2.

What about the report that BP wants to go back and do additional drilling?

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:16 AM EDT
BK Lim

Sushicat,

The world and earth are connected in more ways than we can imagine. Our science has not fully understood much of the geological processes. We think we do, but I think we are only fooling ourselves.

In my work I came across many observations that could not be adequately explained by existing theories. Much of what we were thought we know, are not totally correct. That was the problem.

I was wondering whether the gulf at the edge of the shadow zone (between 103 -105 deg) of the epicentre might have a more enhanced effect. One block of the fault zone unaffected by the shear wave and the other badly shaken. I do not specialise in quake or regional geology so I leave that to others. But even the faster P-waves could have an effect. Local S-waves are generated when the P-waves hit at certain angles. And the P-waves did get through as evident from the groundwater monitoring.

Some comments I had read - asked why the govt would spend millions on useless monitoring and recording of groundwater. I think there are values and it is from such observations we will discover whether existing theories are right or wrong and needed adjustment. Our lifespan is too short to observe the changes. So recorded data over several generations will give us that valuable insights.

Ingenuity is not spontaneous (otherwise everyone would be a genius) but a penned-up solution born out of long term frustration.

  • 8 votes
#2.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:07 PM EDT
sushicat

So we should be a little relieved to know Obama has stopped some drilling contracts. However. that seems to infuriate others that want that oil.

Reading on another site from Synthesis on the problems with drilling(fracking in Ark) and the discussion had turned to the drilling in the Gulf.

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#2.2 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:18 PM EDT
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Briwnys

Excellent as usual, BK.

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Reply#3 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:35 AM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks Briwnys. I started on this article - on the volcanic eruptions vs mud volcano, faults etc in NOV last year. Recent events had kept me from completing the article. I am glad in a way on the delayed posting since the observed new oil, tar balls etc confirm the disastrous effect (and beyond patch up) of the Macondo Blowout.

Remember the comments I made about "children playing fire-crackers inadvertently causing much bigger bang (consequence) somewhere else"?

The consequences of the Macondo blow-out have not ended yet.

  • 8 votes
#3.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:15 PM EDT
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TR-421173

Glad to see ya brother, keep up the fight, keep the information flowing. We are with you.

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Reply#4 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:23 AM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks TR for your continuing faith and support.

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#4.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
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etva

Thank you for keeping us informed, BK! Stay safe!

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Reply#5 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:17 AM EDT
BK Lim

(((((((etva)))))) there are still many unfinished hanging articles. Thanks for your advice.

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#5.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
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mick the biologist

bk - your assessments make sense to me, and i am not a geologist.

what concerns me greatly is that this area of seabed, for many hundreds of miles in all directions, is trembling.  the thousands of new and old wells, as you say, puncture and distort long-standing but fragile balances of pressure and tension.

the organic components interspersed throughout this giant zone of ancient instability cannot remain silent when so much has been done to disrupt them.  there are many overarching physical layers of fluid dynamics at work here.

add to this the fluid nature of the crust itself, with the perhaps millions of variably sized fractures present for millenia, and with the pacific rim popping off in both hemispheres, and what you have described is a recipe for disaster that may make the tragedy in japan look mild by comparison.

but as we have seen, and many know beyond a doubt, when immature little boys are tempted with the prospect of unlimited candy, they will immediately capitulate to addiction.

once addicted, their denial is immense.  and with each lie told to cover each mistake made, the exponent itself becomes exponential.

thanks, once again, for your tireless work and courage in telling us what we need to know, no matter how grim that information might be.

the ethics of planetary responsibility are lost to the sociopathic brain.  there seems to be nothing so heinous and stupid that it cannot be rationalized by the fearful coward.

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Reply#6 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:45 AM EDT
Briwnys

You are so right, Mick, the potential for disaster is so overwhelming it defies the imagination. It supercedes the common example of Chaos theory called the Butterfly Effect. Just think, the interconnectedness of everything that can postulate the effect of a single butterfly flapping its wings in Africa and initiating a wind that becomes a hurricane in Florida can't even begin to define the potential damage the catastrophic fracturing of the seabed in the Gulf of Mexico could cause. The underlying reservoir, the 2nd largest in the world, that runs 150-200 miles inland from the Gulf through Florida to Texas covers 26,000 square miles in a 5 mile deep layer of sediment and salt atop the continental bedrock. This vast reservoir is intersected by the New Madrid fault. In the worst case scenario, the intrusion of salt water, methane hydrate and oil could set off a series of earthquakes, animal die-offs and phreatic explosions from the Gulf to the Great Lakes that could alter the very landscape of our continent.

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#6.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:30 PM EDT
mick the biologist

briwnys - indeed. geology has known for some time now the astounding physical effects created by the yucatan asteroid.

i have read where the mississippi is actually the missouri below st. louis due to a fracture that is beneath the water line and sediments of recent times.

the mississippi at one time flowed northward, did it not?

florida, as it appears to me, is just some sediment shoved out of the water from deep in the mantle by this big rock.

the earth may be trembling, both on its own and due to negligent and stupid incursions by these immature little men, but these men are not trembling.

their paid assassins may be trembling. bk speaks about this. but to what extent men of better judgment will hold themselves prisoner is fast being proven. eventually, madness follows socio-pathology.

i myself have always felt great awe and a true thrill when discovering the amazing energies of our beloved planet. but it never occurred to me to want to tempt these energies.

being a benign participant in these energies has always been enough. i just cannot make the leap, or bridge the chasm, that separates prudence from madness.

goethe's allegory was accurate.

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#6.2 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:20 PM EDT
Briwnys

To misquote Shakespeare, "our destiny is not in our stars but in ourselves." That chasm you perceive lies between immoral subjectivity and moral objectivity, and I agree; there is no transition between the two since what you call prudence is true self-interest and the kind of suicidal greed that leads inevitably to self-destruction is, indeed, madness.

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#6.3 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:13 PM EDT
BK Lim

Very wise words indeed. Fully agree. Always good to hear from a learned friend.

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#6.4 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:19 PM EDT
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beaz-435179

A great deal of this is over my head -- I'm always expressing the "nutty" view that the Pacific Ring of Fire earthquakes are being caused by the shifting plates because we are draining all of the lubricant out of the center of the earth, which my husband says, with a pat on my head, is impossible. So, you can see I'm a long way from understanding all of the ramifications of what you are saying, so please condense it to "dummy" level. What I do get is that we need to stop the deep sea drilling, but I already believed that. Help me understand in layman's terms how much and how quickly our oceans will be altered by this. Please explain as well, if the radiation from the Japanese nuclear plant spills co-mingles with this oil what it will mean to wildlife and to us and also, how much nuclear waste is stored in the bottom of the ocean and what will happen if it breaks open during this process you have discussed. I look forward to Part II, hopefully with more information from you to this dummy regarding Part I. Thank you.

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Reply#7 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:19 PM EDT
mick the biologist

beaz - rest assured that geologist's reading this will correct me when i err.

first, pat yourself on the head for being observant and concerned and curious enough to want to know.

and give yourself credit for your intuition, which is a vast pool of intelligence.

in one sense, you are correct. vulcanism, and its visible end product, magma, do represent a leakage of liquid matter from near the core of the earth.

but it is not necessary to drain out all this lubricant to have surface disasters. the pacific plate, which is gigantic, is shifting, as are all the plates. why?

imagine the spinning sphere of earth. its axial velocity is about 24k miles per hour. this spin, on a rock of this size, creates much gravity. there is then also a powerful magnetic field associated with this spin. this comes from the rock itself, its polarities at the atomic level, magnified exponentially by the spin, and the shape of the earth, which is behaving like an armature generating electricity.

this spin draws the outer layers and deposits of rock toward the center. weight is a function of gravity, and heat is a function of pressure created by gravity as it is exerted on weight (mass).

so the core is very hot, but very compact and dense. outward from the core it is cooler, but still hot enough to melt rocks of many different compositions of elements.

still further out, the rock cools and slowly becomes solid. on 70 percent of the surface, it is cooled by the oceans, and on the continents, but altitude above sea level of more rock.

but this mantle, this outer zone of somewhat solid and cooled rock, is literally floating on magma deep inside. the core spins faster than the mantle. the mantle, being variable in crystalline structure, has cracks, faults and fissures. this is where the leaks occur.

embedded in the mantle in various locations are the organic by-products of plant life from millions of years of past growth. grounded in carbon, they constitute burnable energy, hence oil and gas (methane, butane, etc.).

so man punches holes in this mantle above these liquid and gaseous deposits of carbon. like a pin cushion. but unlike a pin cushion, there are great pressures and tensions in the mantle, and beneath.

now imagine you have a hard-boiled egg that is cool. you gently tap the shell in various spots. you see many little cracks held together by the thin membrane beneath the shell. this is a rough example of the mantle, except that inside the egg it is still very hot and liquid.

but, as another writer and bk have described, the entire mantle, magma and core are interconnected. you cannot affect one area without affecting another.

in a volatile zone like the gulf of mexico, whose subsurface rocks are seriously smashed and fractured by the yucatan asteroid, and also filled with hydrate (frozen methane) and fluid and pressurized oil, the pin cushion attitude is playing with fire in the center of a field of dry wheat.

our oceans are already altered by this behavior. they are also altered by the normal vulcanism of plate tectonics. but the major activity occurs along these various large and small faults.

add to this at least two things. one, man is now punching holes along these fault lines looking for oil and gas, altering pressures and tensions by venting oil and gas to the surface. two, as these liquids and fluids vent, the pockets and pools they have resided in (like a balloon stretched tight) are then punctured and release and deflate the balloon.

what is pushing inward on the balloon is miles of rock mantle. it begins to collapse, and as it does, all the egg shell fractures begin to move around. in the seas and oceans, when releases occur, all biological hell breaks loose.

if phyto- and zoo-plankton are destroyed or genetically altered by these carbon-based toxins, all sea life is negatively affected. all life in the oceans depends, as its foundation, on these planktons.

as to nuclear waste from japan, or elsewhere, ocean currents are much more likely to pose potential problems than seismic events. but tsunamis disrupt, exaggerate and temporarily alter ocean currents. so do giant oil spills.

it would take a lot of radiation to become a problem in the global oceans and seas, but not in localized areas. again, the planktons and their dependents can be quickly genetically altered, or outright killed, by gamma and beta radiation and their daughters.

but once again, remember that all things are connected. there is no such thing as an isolated incident.

as great a scientific and engineering society as japan has not yet been able to quell even one reactor's demise, let alone the potential of four or five more. there are hundreds of nuclear reactors operating on this planet right now. and a small country of nuclear waste deposited in various places, some with half-lifes of a quarter million years.

human beings cannot even control their own emotions. how in hell do we expect to control our garbage, our mistakes, and the immense raw energy of this planet?

hope this helps.

edits welcome.

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#7.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:05 PM EDT
Lisafrequency

human beings cannot even control their own emotions. how in hell do we expect to control our garbage, our mistakes, and the immense raw energy of this planet?

I expect humanity to get a grip any day now...

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#7.2 - Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:35 PM EDT
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Danese

Great job BK Lim:)

  • 8 votes
Reply#8 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:42 PM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks Danese as always for your great support. ((((((((((((Danese)))))))))))

  • 7 votes
#8.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:23 PM EDT
Danese

I'm jeolous of etva's hug:( LOLOLLOl:)))) Who cares about disaster and oil and environmental issues... what about my hugs?! lololololo

((((((((((BK Lim))))))))))

  • 6 votes
#8.2 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:32 PM EDT
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mountainfirefall

You make it easier to understand the complex workings of this evil greedy corporate scourge that propagated ......... such destruction.

i watch and listen for your voice.

and i tell all who ask questions... 'there's this very intelligent and courageous dude.. check him out'.

clipped.

  • 8 votes
Reply#9 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:29 PM EDT
BK Lim

mff,

I am just doing my duty for Mother Nature. We must all voice out the wrongs and falsehood in each of our little world. Out of all the interactions only can the truth surface. The world would not have understood (many still are) on what is happening in the gulf, if not for all the ground information and reporting by bloggers.

Speaking of that, I do not see a lot of ground information coming from bloggers in Japan. Maybe they are in Japanese. Silence is not always golden.

  • 8 votes
#9.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:35 PM EDT
JJP

Hi BK Lim,

Physicist-retired has been hosting a series of articles regarding the issues with the Fukushima Nuclear Reactor.

You can find the most recent article here: http://drich13.newsvine.com/_news/2011/04/07/6427382-ongoing-coverage-of-fukushima-nuclear-plant

Within those articles goldminor, mstanley2265, Starseeker and others have been adding information regarding additional concerns with faults and underwater volcanoes in the area.

Here are a couple of links to some of their comments: http://drich13.newsvine.com/_news/2011/04/07/6427382-ongoing-coverage-of-fukushima-nuclear-plant?pc=25&sp=25&threadId=1167832&last=1302541681#c20651485

http://drich13.newsvine.com/_news/2011/04/07/6427382-ongoing-coverage-of-fukushima-nuclear-plant?pc=25&sp=25&threadId=1167832&last=1302541681#c20652395

Maybe some of their info and the posted links to their sources will lead to what you are looking for.

  • 6 votes
#9.2 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:04 PM EDT
mountainfirefall

and synthesis sites you in his article on 'end times'... heh.

  • 8 votes
#9.3 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
etva

Link to Synth's article is here. ((((((BK)))))))

  • 6 votes
#9.4 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:46 PM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks for the links, guys. Guess I had been too busy running and hiding, did not have time to check huh?

  • 7 votes
#9.5 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:06 PM EDT
mountainfirefall

your welcome.. not worry... we just want to do our part to keep you from the small tasks:)

party on mr elusive:) may your success continue.

  • 9 votes
#9.6 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:15 PM EDT
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BK Lim

Mick, as always thanks for your valuable insights and contribution. Your scientific knowledge continue to astound me. I was scratching my head on how to explain to Beaz and you did a wonderful job. Thanks. I just want to highlight some of your great lines

there are many overarching physical layers of fluid dynamics at work here.

when immature little boys are tempted with the prospect of unlimited candy, they will immediately capitulate to addiction.

once addicted, their denial is immense. and with each lie told to cover each mistake made, the exponent itself becomes exponential.

the ethics of planetary responsibility are lost to the sociopathic brain. there seems to be nothing so heinous and stupid that it cannot be rationalized by the fearful coward.

as great a scientific and engineering society as japan has not yet been able to quell even one reactor's demise, let alone the potential of four or five more. there are hundreds of nuclear reactors operating on this planet right now. and a small country of nuclear waste deposited in various places, some with half-lifes of a quarter million years.

human beings cannot even control their own emotions. how in hell do we expect to control our garbage, our mistakes, and the immense raw energy of this planet?

Take Japan for example. Despite being such an advanced country (technology-wise) why would all their nuclear power stations be located on the south-eastern coastline with the greatest tsunami threat. No doubt economic expediency and complacency played a big role. Geohazards assessment is like the valuation of the stock - you can have the professional one which may not be to your liking or the "pampered" one to suit your budget. The data and facts can be massaged to fit the desired stock valuation.

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Reply#10 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:27 PM EDT
mick the biologist

bk - i am here for you, and anyone, who needs support. we cannot do this alone. everyone who cares has something to contribute.

baez contributed much through her humble attitude. it is a lesson of such immense power few can see it for what it is.

i merely felt her energy and honesty, and the words came through.

  • 5 votes
#10.1 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:09 PM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks Mick. Greatly appreciate your support and comradeship in this long march. Let's hope we can make just a little difference in the outcome. And I will be thankful.

  • 6 votes
#10.2 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:59 PM EDT
mick the biologist

bk. me too.

ghandi is quoted as saying that 'everything we do in life is insignificant. that is why it is very important that we do it.'

glad to help in any way i can.

  • 5 votes
#10.3 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:18 AM EDT
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ray.burchard

Mick, your's is a very good explanation of reason and while agreeing that the earth's core and surface are interconnected, I don't fully agree that magma is a concentric liquid leakage channeled to the surface. I believe that volcanic magma is the result of plate tectonics produced friction following oscillating pressured fault lines.

Let me offer a purely hypothetical; what if the earth's purpose for creating the many carbon based fossil fuel, moisture and oxygen filled subterranean filtration reservoirs, was not for the advent of mankind's exploitation and consumption. But when full, to deliver a proportionately integrated and continual source of moisture, oxygen and fuel to an interior combustion chamber in order to produce another super, super Nova. Much like the gigantic, super, super Nova, the big bang Sun. Just a thought.

  • 7 votes
Reply#11 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:42 AM EDT
mick the biologist

ray - what you say may be so. i do know that gravity, and the resulting friction created by the differential spins of core and mantle, create the pressure and heat necessary to form magma.

but my info on vulcanology is limited. i have little doubt that homo sapiens sapiens was/is/will be viewed from afar as an experiment gone bad.

perhaps the super nova concept is a massive default switch to end the experiment for good.

being something of a buddhist, i realize that all of this is somewhat illusionary and certainly impermanent in nature.

but, even with my limited view, it seems that a shameless outcome such as a 'bang' big enough to wipe out a planet is unfair, on its face, to the myriad non-human life forms who have had little or nothing to do with trashing it.

being a biologist, i feel that humans have had the opportunity to stand on the shoulders of many giants in the biological world, and have failed miserably.

failed to the point of insanely despising the very origin and core of their existence.

humanity may be a blip on the screen, but in this corner of this galaxy, this lovely planet has and does still provide a home to many magnificent creatures who, through no fault of their own that i can see, have had to pay an extraordinarily high price for allowing humans to show up and hang out.

i reject, entirely, that plants and animals, other than humans, have no empathy and cannot combine reason, intellect and meaningful feelings into a benign strategy that allows for their genetic and philosophical continuation.

if anything, they are the teachers, and have been given a student mostly incapable of expansive reasoning, who now turns on them after being brought into their living room from the cold and lonely realms of the void of space.

  • 8 votes
#11.1 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:13 AM EDT
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ray.burchard

BK, another excellent article that has become your signature.

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Reply#12 - Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:51 AM EDT
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